[coi] Upgrading Email is the smartest way to do electronic messaging

Adam Z. Lein adamz at pocketnow.com
Fri May 3 15:11:42 CEST 2019


Hi, I just wanted to voice my support for Chat over IMAP. It's been 
increasingly frustrating to managing so many separate messaging silos 
ever since the early days of instant messaging apps like ICQ, AIM, MSN, 
Yahoo, etc. in the 90's. I was originally excited about XMPP back then, 
but it never really got implemented in a user-friendly interoperable 
way.  Even those that did use it, like MSN, Facebook, Google, etc... 
never really implemented interoperability and have since locked down 
their messaging silos completely.

I know Robert Virkus mentioned JMAP compatibility in the video here 
(https://fosdem.org/2019/schedule/event/chat_over_imap/), but have you 
communicated with the JMAP working group about it?  Chris Newman of 
draft-ietf-jmap-mail at ietf.org is telling me you'll need some changes in 
order to be more standards compliant (in particular, it should be using 
the Message-Context header from RFC 3458 which exists exactly for this 
sort of use case).  Also, he seems to think XMPP and SIP can be 
integrated with an Email protocol in order to accomplish the same type 
of thing.

I'm not an engineer, so I don't know much about this. I'm just sick of 
friends/family/colleagues getting suckered into using so many different 
electronic messaging silos that do the same thing. I'm also a tech 
journalist though and here are a few things I've published on the topic:

- Why are we still using instant messaging apps at all? 
(https://pocketnow.com/still-using-instant-messaging)

- Hop: How instant messaging should have been done decades ago. 
(https://pocketnow.com/hop-how-messaging-should-have-been-done)

- Here's the smartest way to use text-based electronic messaging 
(https://adamlein.com/learnemail.asp)




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